So, Rome's counter-argument basically says that there is only a state of necessity if the Popes causing the state of necessity, admit that they have caused the state of necessity.
Yes, before you buy take a good look at the box. That one says vanilla flavored filling, it does not say vanilla ice cream. Nowhere does it say ice cream.
Also this other dogma, "outside of the Church there is no salvation". I want people to be saved as much as the next guy but it is not appropriate to make declarations of someone being saved or going to heaven. It is impossible for us to know with certainty.
"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things." 1 Corinthians 13:11
@chris griffin I still disagree with your position on Communion in the hand. I do appreciate your commitment to defend your position, not lukewarm for sure. I still think the Church in its wisdom discouraged and eventually prohibited that practice to increase reverence for the Eucharist and the prevention of sacrilege. We have all heard the statistics in recent years about the decline in belief in the Real Presence. Maybe that is what the Church of old tried to prevent.
@chris griffin thank you for the bible reference. I do not think the bread on the road to Emmaus is a justification for receiving Communion in the hand. The gesture was an act of divine revelation, not a model for lay reception. Taking the other parts of the same chapter you can see what I mean. Luke 24:16 "but their eyes were held, that they should not know him" this tells us they did not recognize Jesus on the road to Emmaus. Luke 24:18 "Art thou only a stranger to Jerusalem, and hast not known the things that have been done there in these days?" speaking to Jesus that way since they did not know it was Him. In Luke 24:30 they received the bread but then Luke 24:31 says "And their eyes were opened, and they knew him: and he vanished out of their sight." here after the bread verse (Luke 24:30), they recognize Him, but only after they received the bread. If you say that it was Communion then you would also be saying that they received Communion without recognizing that was Jesus who they were receiving. In Catholic teaching, you must be properly disposed and recognize the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist to receive Communion.
I was bottle fed for the first couple of years but it does not mean I should go back to that practice. Jesus said "Take and eat" to the apostles, and priests today still take and eat. I am not a priest and my hands are not consecrated, so I, in humility receive from the priest.
Plausible deniability... It allows individuals, particularly those in positions of authority, to claim ignorance or non-participation in illegal, unethical, or disreputable activities.
The images are striking. Devotees overcome with emotion enter trances, waiting for hours to meet Kathryn Krick, leader of the 5F Church in Los Angeles, who presents herself as an "apostle"
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