President Obama wants Christians and Muslims to come together in worship as “God”s followers”.
Tuesday President Obama confirmed that he is paving the way for the final antichrist. In his televised address in Indonesia, Obama claimed to be a “Christian”, but reconfirmed his believe in Islam “as a great religion”, and Muslims as true worshipers of God.
The Commander in Chief in Washington told the people in Jakarta, that he consider’s Islam to be the truth a revelation he got as a boy, listening to Muslim prayers.
This are the exact words used by Obama:
“it is also home to the world’s largest Muslim population – a truth that I came to know as a boy when I heard the call to prayer across Jakarta”.
The US head of state also called Islam a “great” religion, that must not be lead by al Qaeda:
“Instead, all of us must defeat al Qaeda and its affiliates, who have no claim to be leaders of any religion – certainly not a great, world religion like Islam”.
As a committed Muslim, President Obama confirmed he visited a Mosque in Jakarta. Obama “admired” what he saw and heard.
“Earlier today, I visited the Istiqlal mosque – a place of worship that was still under construction when I lived in Jakarta. I admired its soaring minaret, imposing dome, and welcoming space”.
Inside the televised address, Obama also praised Muslims in Indonesia, who “chose to Worship God as they please”.
” Across an archipelago that contains some of God’s most beautiful creations, islands rising above an ocean named for peace, people choose to worship God as they please”.
At the end of the President’s speech, he promoted the One World Religion. Obama agreed that Christians should visit Mosques, and Muslims be allowed into Churches.
“As a Christian visiting a mosque on this visit, I found it in the words of a leader who was asked about my visit and said, “Muslims are also allowed in churches. We are all God’s followers.”
Source: THE WHITE HOUSE
My comment:
After the Cairo speech, many Americans became convinced Obama is a Muslim. Still many have doubts, and question if the US President really is a committed Koran obeying Muslim.
After Tuesday speech in Jakarta, there should be no more doubt that Obama has come out of the closet. His admiration for Islam is greater than many Muslims are able to express.
Islam will surely have a “great place” inside the End time Universal religion. Obama is one of the men who is paving the way for the final antichrist. In Jakarta we got this message in plainer words, than in his address to the Egyptians. Obama is convinced Muslim and Christians are called to share the same house of worship, since they are both “Children of God”.
This message delete Jesus of Nazareth as the only gate to Heaven. That there is no other name neither in Heaven nor on the Earth, that man can be saved.
The One World religion of Obama and his men will be a compromise, that all men will be forced to swallow for the sake of “peace” on Earth.
Men like Obama will welcome the final man of lawlessness, who will set up his throne in God”s temple in Jerusalem.
2 Thessalonians 2:2-4
not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
(end of scripture)
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Yes, Ivar I was speaking to someone yesterday about this very same thing. He is praising the new world religion. We are not far now from all that is written to be at hand. We are walking in the pages of Revelation.
Dear Sue.
Shalom, and love from a brother in Jesus.
Tomorrow, I will publish old and new material about Barack Obama from his childhood in Indonesia. Everything about this man is exiting. Because He fulfill the scriptures in regards to the preparation to be done, so the final man of lawlessness can be lifted to power.
It is a sad sight to see, that a leader chose to believe in the lies of this world.
Another sign, that our King Jesus Christ is near.
God Bless
Brothers i m very supprise of this man obama,please publish every thing about him so i can know myself because,i m readly a supporter of him but, because of this i will no longer support him again.
The Antichrist may not be a single person but rather a body of people. These single to body types ate common in the Bible. Jacob was Israel than Israel became a body of people. Antichrist is always plural in the Bible if you read it objectively. The temple is the believer, not the temple in Israel. They may or may not reconstruct that temple, but the abomination of desolation is not in the temple because it was already made desolate under the new covenant. Veil torn in two? An evil generation seeks after a sign, Jesus will work quickly like a ‘thief in the night’.
Thoughts?
Dear Kyle.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
You wrote about antichrist being a group of people, and the believer the temple.
My reply:
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
(end of scriptures)
There are many ways of looking at this verse. Paul clearly explains that there will be a “man”. If this man is the Pope, than the rebellion did take place already in 325 A.D. That was the Church council that deleted Biblical Zionism, changed the Sabbath, and took the “Church” into paganism.
I believe there are many anti-Christs walking around on Earth. But the final one, will shift his throne to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The throne is already put up inside the Latino Quarter of the Old City.
Take a look at this link:
https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/08/21/vatican-priest-in-jerusalem-is-also-liaison-for-the-white-house/
How can a devout christian praise Islam as a great religion. How can a devout christian never mention the name of Jesus Christ as being the one and only Saviour of the world. Why does Obama visit mosque every where he goes , but you never hear of him visiting any churches. I believe the end time is very near when we have a president that is supposed to be a devout christian, ( a lie) but talks about and praises Islam everywhere he goes. He is a muslim . A christian is known by their actions. And Obama’s actions do not point to him being a devout christian.
Also he legalized abortion in the USA and a devout chrstian would not do that. He does not celebrate the National Day or Prayer in the USA. HOw many more lies are we going to believe ?
Dear Patricia
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
You wrote:
A christian is known by their actions.
My reply:
A Christan is known by His faithfulness to the Word of God. A man or woman who confess with their mouth, and believe in their heart that Jesus is risen from the dead.
Obama is not faithful to the Word of God. He is at best a spiritual prostitute, who tries to enter many beds at the same time.
Yes, Ivarfjeld,I believe you are right.
A devout christian wouldn’t. There is a video of Obama speaking to a group and quoting scripture and putting it down. google it
He is muslim and slow but sure is going to let people know when he thinks it is to late for them to do anything about it. Evil against Good. Jesus and his followers and Satan and his followers. It is not hard to figure out which is which.
Your website is new to me. I praise our Lord Jesus Christ for your faithfulness and boldness. Yes, Obama is certainly paving the way for the Wicked One who will soon be revealed.
Blessings,
Donald Hauser
@Donald, Amen, my brother in Christ~
If I have any means of taking this man out from the white house now i could do it now because of him being a spiritual prostitute who is entering all beds at the same time.
Clearly, the man we call president…is not a Christian. If you study the muslim law and beliefs..they are told to lie to fool those that do not believe so that they can take over power of all other people that are not muslim. Its scary. Religion of peace…NOT! They beat, rape, burn and stone to death their wives and children and are not considered criminals for it. They make their daughters, starting at the age of 6, wives to men that are even over 50, so they child molest and rape as well. They are terrorists in behavior and belief. Our president is a great example of someone who is anti Christ…many are anti Christ, but only 1 will be “the anti christ” that God speaks about. I agree, pro abortion, is pro murder, the taking of an innocent child that God put here. You cant be a Christian and be pro murder. Christians are not to lie. (another big example of our presidents conduct)Christians are not to worship, believe in, or have anything to do w/other false religions. That is Idoletry. I just dont understand how anyone can back him as president for any reason. Look at the deficit that our grandkids and such will be suffering for, that alone makes no sense to back him, but especially because he does not worship Christ.
Let me add, muslims are very dangerous and evil, they are not to be trusted at all people. They want to kill everyone of us until the world is only of muslim belief, then they say there will be “peace”…yet they can still do what they do to their women and children. Thats not peaceful at all folks. And Being saved and becoming “Christ like”….does not represent what obama is saying at all. God wants us to bring those that do not know Christ, to Him, but he also gives us wisdom. Inviting muslims that want to kill us into our churches…is not going to convert them. You’d have to convert them very carefully cuz they are brainwashed from birth. Go to you tube and type in anything about muslims….it will make you sick! (and frightened) on another note, like him or not, God says pray for our leaders, and the power of prayer is amazing! We all need to pray that our leader will not continue to be blinded by the lies of satan, and that he will not allow these other god believing people to infect our country.
Dear Angela.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
Not all Muslims want to kill us.But the prophet Muhammad told his followers to cripple and kill, all who do not submit to “allah” and his messenger.
@ivarfjeld, I have to disagree with you to some degree, my brother in Christ. I am convinced that there are no ‘good’ muslims, no’safe to come into our churchs’ muslims, and there are no muslims that we could ever trust with our lives, as even the quiet American muslims pay dues to promote the terrorists actions in our country. In Islam, as Angela says, all infidels (thats me and you and anyone who is not a converter to Islam), are to be killed, preferably by beheading them, and the muslim murderers are promised by Allah in the Qur’an, that it’s okay to do that. Islamists also practice honor killings, actually killing one another..(ex. A teen-age son is forced to behead another teenager, because that young muslim spoke ill of his father, thus dishonoring his muslim dad.) They are even promised 72 virgins and luscious coucnes, fruits and other pleasantries in paradise if the are suicide bombers or if they just are devout Islamists. What kind of god would offer even one little virgin girl as reward for killing people? Only a false god, such as Allah. “Not all muslims want to kill us.” Please show me one. They are brainwashed from babyhood, as soon as they learn to talk, to be devout Islamists. I would only agree to this degree: if a muslim actually converts to Jesus Christ and him Crucified and becomes a believer, and there are some actually converting to Christianity knowling that they are risking their lives and will be put on a kill list and hunted endlessly. Blessings, my friend~
Why can we not find what B.O. said? I saw him say on national news, “We (America) do not have one main religion, unlike the great world religion of Islam.” He denied that America was Christian, founded by Christians. That is why our founders allowed freedom of religion. Unlike Islam and Islamabad, we do not cut off heads and childrens hands if they are not of our religion. It is a lie that Islam is of peace. Where there is 1% other than Islam, it is because they kill.
Dear Viking Girl 21.
Luke 11:49
Because of this, God in his wisdom said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute.’
Matthew 23:34
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
(end of scriptures).
One of the “great” religion who always have crippled and killed true followers of Jesus, is Muslims who obey the Koran. Obama has great love for Muhammad and his followers. The US President tries to delete history, and deny that Islam is a religion of war, suffering and killing. Just look at how Muslims blow up their own Mosques in countries like Pakistan.
@viking girl 21, I agree. In addition, Islamists do a cruel surgery on their young girls in puberty, that of cutting off the clitoris and some times part of the labia, with no anesthesia! This is to make the girls when married, not to wander and committ adultery. It is all done for the sake of those male chauvenist barbarious muslims who have kept their women under extreme oppression and abuse for 1425+years, since Mohammad, the pedophile, false prophet,(imho) started his babblings which his followers wrote down on leaves, rocks, stick, anything they could write on and keep it preserved, eventually gathering all of his sayings and creating the unholy(imho) Qur’an. No, absolutely not! Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a world ideology whose primary goal is to conquer the world, and the Antichrist will use muslims/Islamists to his advantage when he begins his warring. Islam is a world ideology spawned by Satan himself, and masked behind an occult/false/idolotrous religion in order to deceive the world into accepting it.
Shalom Aleichem
I live in Indonesia and I watched the full speech of Mr. Obama through our national television.
I only want to say this:
YOCHANAN – JOHN 14:6
YAHUSHUA says to him(Toma); I am the Way, the Truth-Emet, and the Life: no man comes to the ABBA (YHWH), but by Me.
Period…
Take care, everyone…
Baruch HaShem Adonai…
that man (OBAMA) is a muslim and an antichrist but why so many christians were fooled by this man?
Frank, You said,All books have truth in them, even the Quran, though much of it is of evil men. My God knows that my faith in him is stronger than your faith in the God you chose to follow and praise. Spiritual growth is stunted when men fear a God of vengeance and who desires worldly praise through vain rituals and ordinaces that bind ones true spirit within.
My response to, “All books have truth in them”.
That is a very sweeping statement, my friend, and can you prove your premise, as in, have you read every book that has ever been written? If you even narrowed your statement to all spiritual books pertaining to a higher being or creator, could you say that you have read all of them?
You said, “My God knows that my faith in him is stronger than your faith in the God you chose to follow and praise.”
My response: Are you saying that you serve a different god than the G-d of the Holy Bible? I’m sure that you love your G-d, but I’m not convinced of that, because you hold your god so closely in your freedom, to the point, that it seems you are touting, “My g-d is better than your god.” How do you know that your God knows that your faith in him is stronger than our faith in the God we chose to follow and praise, (assuming you are referring to the G-d of the Holy Bible). Does he speak to you? Do you hear voices?
You said, “Spiritual growth is stunted when men fear a God of vengeance and who desires worldly praise through vain rituals and ordinances that bind ones true spirit within.”
My response: Spiritual growth is stunted when men fail to have a healthy, godly fear of the Creator of this universe. God spoke through a burning bush that was not consumed, to Moses on the mountain, “Moses, take off your shoes, for the ground you stand upon is holy ground.” Moses took off his shoes and fell down to the ground because to be in the presense of a holy God, it is somewhat humbling and frightening. I think that Moses was somewhat fearful at such a sight as a burning bush that was not consumed and a god that spoke through the bush directly to his servant, Moses. As I recall, every person who came in contact with an angel, fell to their knees in fear knowing that this spirit being was superior to them and from another world…
You said, “…a God of vengeance and who desires worldly praise through vain rituals and ordinances that bind ones true spirit within”..
My response: You mock the G-d of the Holy Bible and you mock those who worship G-d. You are poking fun of worship rituals, that frankly are different according to what church you are attending. How do you worship your G-d? Through meditation? Do you go into your secret closet as the Bible admonishes us to do, and worship G-d privately not to be seen by men, which you consider vain btw…? Frank, honestly, you talk in circles. You talk about your G-d as though he is only yours; you sound selfish. You say in a later comment that you are ‘called’ to share your G-d, yet you are not sharing: you are keeping him to yourself and saying, my god is better than your god because my god is pure love, he sees no evil, and only loves. I suggest that you check out all of the characteristics and attributes of your god AND the G-d of the Holy Bible, because the God of the Holy Bible is a jealous god, and he will not share his glory with another. He gets angry, he punished the disobedient ones, he judges his children, he is righteous, etc…Do some research Frank…He is more than pure love. You sound like a hippy, lol, I say that in love, as hippys of the 70’s were all about free love, freedom, spiritual, anti-war, etc. I say that in love and with a light heart..
You said, all of that in three sentences, and I fail to see your point…Can you summarize the sentences and get to the heart of the matter of which you speak? I sincerely hope I have not offended you, but only challenged you to be more clear, so we can understand where you are coming from. You sound like you have had some very negative experiences with hypocrites within the church world. I feel sad for you, as I have had some too, but I didn’t and wouldn’t ever depart from the Word of God which is a lamp unto our feet, and a light unto the darkness of this world..I’m beginning to understand why so many Christian churches exhort their members not to read about other theologies. One can stray so easily..You talk a lot: so much so that you seem lonely, and that is sad because you are so in love with your G-d, yet your G-d is seemingly a distant being that is hard to feel the love you speak of…Peace, my friend, and may God lead you in the right direction. Please don’t go off on a tangent of your own making; you may not make it to heaven….Shalom
The only church seen by God is not of this world and the world knows it not. It’s truth is spiritual and not temporal.
When mankind learns all the false prophets of this world are strewn out amongst all the religions of man from Islam to Christianity, who follow other men and their teachings and not the Father who teaches his own who seek him as stated in Ezekiel, 14; 7-11. Then will mankind learn that there is not a church of God on earth except for the one that lies within the hearts and minds of Gods people who are at war with no one. Jesus tried teaching this by praising his Father for all he did. Yet, the world crucified him for his beliefs outside the teachings of worldly men. The same goes for today. Gods truth is still upon the earth, but not through any religion of man who distorts Gods words to fit this world for the gain of wealth, status, praise amongst an ignorant populace who, as Jesus said to the woman at the well, “You know not who you pray to,” The Father is pure love and knows not one iota of any evil done or spoken through words. He’s pure love and not all flesh has the Father in them. Those who are lovers of this world, know not the Father. Never have and never will. Jesus has been made God by men, and thusly he’s been thrown into the mix and has become their antichrist, for they follow and praise him instead of the Father as he did. That’s why his words he stated in St. Matthews, 7; 21-23 come into play and yet many are blind to the truth he stated in them.
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, haven’t we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them. I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Awesome truth yet many who follow men see it not for the truth that is in these words. Yet, this truth from the Nag Hammadi, which is not accepted by Christians for they are taught that there is only one book of God and that man is not worthy of praying to God the Father and must pray through Jesus. How wrong that teaching is. Jesus has become their antichrist and this also they will not believe.
“Say to the children of my people,” “If your sins reach from earth to heaven, if they become red as scarlet and blacker than sackcloth, and if you return to me with all your soul and say to me, “My Father,” I will listen to you as a holy people.”
Jesus praised his Father. His Father is my Father. And this truth, I’ve learned through my Father who I praise and not through worldly men who teach from just one book, no matter what religion one is. God the Father teaches his own and the world knows him or them not for his people follow him and not any religion of men, whether it be Islam or Christianity. For as stated in Revelations, 3; 12. The name he shall give his people will be, “New Jerusalem,”
Ask the Father for truth and learn pure truth from your own bible, that false prophets have adulterized for their own purposes which have nothing to do with the Father who knows his children and his people who have heard his voice, call their name, as I have.
God bless any who understand and are not offended.
Frank I’m curious;
What is your interpretation of John 10:30 I and the Father are one.
and
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”
Frank, you continue to stray from the article about Obama speaking of a one world religion and defending the muslim faith. Come back and talk about the subject at hand. Thank you, and may the only true G-d of the Holy Bible, through His Holy Spirit, draw you to Him…Blessings to you~
Who that is a Christian is being fooled? When asked about the end and the timing and the return of the Lord Jesus said:Beware that no man decieve you!
Read Daniel chapter 7 and count the ten “Kings” from this one Nation since 1947.
@johnmichael, If one is not to be fooled, then be sure of what you say, and study to show thyself a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. I agree, no one knows about the timing and the return of Jesus, not even Jesus, who sits at the Father’s right hand, awaiting His instructions to return to earth. Concerning “the ten ‘Kings’ from this one Nation since 1947”, you said. At first, Daniel did not understand the horns. (Daniel 7:8) Even though the Roman Empire has come and gone, still, the ‘ten horns’ have not yet risen to power; however, the breakup of the former Soviet Union is the beginning if the fulfillment of this passage. If one is to notice, the ten horns were a part of the fourth beast (non-descript: Roman Empire), which has to do with the territory which the Old Roman Empire controlled. “There came up among them another little horn,” means this one came up after the “ten horns were fully grown”. The “little horn” is THE Antichrist. Three of the horns will be plucked by the ‘little horn’, meaning that he will defeat these countries in battle, with the others THEN submitting to him. This will take place in the first half of the Great Tribulation. The ten horns represent ten different nations, not ‘one nation’.
In verse nine, we learn that the phrase, “I beheld till the thrones were cast down,” speaks of all the Empires, even from Babylon straight through to the Antichrist. All of them have already been cast down, with the exception of the ten horns and the ‘little horn’. However, as surely as the others were cast down, these two kingdoms will also be cast down. “And the Ancient of days did sit,” refers to God the Father and His Dominion. His Kingdom will remain! Daniel 7:17″These great beast, which are four, are for kings, which shall arise out of the Earth. (The “four kings” are, as stated, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, “Which shall arise out of the earth”, simply means that they are of the people of man, and therefore, not of God. The Kingdon of verse 14 is of God and from God, and consequently, will last forever.) Verse 19 refers to the 4th beast, as stated, and is a symbol of the old Roman Empire, the fourth of four kingdoms in succession. It is mentioned by name only in the New Testament, {John 11:48, Acts 2:10, 16:”And his nails of brass,” presents something added, which is not mentioned in the description given in verses 7 and 8. They symbolize the Grecian Empire element of the image of 2:39, 45.
This means that the Antichrist will have characteristics of both the Roman Empire and the ancient Grecian Empire. Verse 20, “And the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell: even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spoke very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows”..(The “other which came up” is the same as the “little horn” of verse 8, and is the Antichrist, who will come on the world scene shortly after the Rapture of the Church {II Thessalonians 2:7,8}. Which brings me to one question, John Michael: What one nation are you referring to? I await your answer. Blessings to you my brother in Christ~
correction, The Antichrist will wage war after 3 1/2 years, not during. My apologies.
When one has the spirit of the Father within him as a guide and teacher, the spirit is the Christ. Those who believe that Jesus is God, are those being fooled. Many quote scripture to answer all questions pertaining to scripture, but not many have individual testimonies that help them define Gods truth that is not in line with the worlds truth about a God, they know not at all.
Many pray to a God that is the creator of this world and yet, none speak of a God over all Gods who’s name has never been spoken within the world of men, for it’s hallowed as Jesus stated in the Lords Prayer. “Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name,” The Father knows not evil one iota and sees no evil for his love of his people is pure love without ridicule, judgement or of man’s written laws. They are the true inheritors of his kingdom, here on earth. Those who are of him, are at war with no one and care not for the things of this world that one must overcome to be called, “New Jerusalem,”
Even in the book of Genesis, the creation of man was a commandment that come down from a higher source of truth, that those who many praise today, have names that go way way back even before Moses. Yet, the words in Genesis, if one opens his eyes and mind will see speaks volumes of a truth that states, their is a wide gap between the creator and the Father, who is pure love and knows no evil whatsoever.
Genesis, 1; 26. And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion; etc.etc.
The Father is above all Gods that men praise. Except men praise Gods with names, while the one and only true God is very seldom mentioned except through the words of Jesus who spoke for the Father to those who understand his words through the spirit and not through the vain teachings of men.
Men have made Jesus God. How sad for those who follow the teachings of this world cannot walk away from them and thusly they are part of this world. And the Father knows not the things of this world, for they are connected with evil that he and only he will forgive those who are his. Not all flesh is of the Father. Thusly, his name is hallowed as Jesus stated in the Lord’s Prayer, for no one of flesh has ever heard it let alone speak it, for that is how hallowed it is. Man’s history proves that men can never forgive because of all the differences mankind follows. That is the curse of a free will, given to all men, which in time always leads to wars and confrontation in all things. Yet, Gods people are at war with no one, thusly they are not decieved by men, for they don’t follow men, but only the Father that is within them, through a truth that can’t be shared with those who know from where they came from and to where they shall return. This world is just a learning phase within their everlasting life of immortality, for not all flesh are blessed with immortal spirits, for many flaunt their worldly spirit as Godly spirit, and they know not who they pray or worship, thusly they follow the antichrist that follow the teachings of man.
1 John, 2; 15. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
All things that pertain to this world are of men, even it’s religions. Yet in the next scripture much more truth is much more revealing that catagorizes the three lusts that covers all things of this world. The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the biggest one of all, the pride of life. All religions have pride as many will kill and hate those outside their beliefs of a God who they praise and work diligently to put upon all men’s minds. Yet, there are those who are of the Father and need not religion of any sect to know how to love and live as one amongst the worlds inhabitants without hate brought on through different teachings by men of any religon, yet the worldly know them not, for they are of the Father, and the world knows not the Father through the teachings of men/false prophets of the world.
As world governments fall because of their lust for money, so shall many religions fall for the lust of their pride for their beliefs and doctrines that separate, divide and judge all men instead of bringing together under one truth not taught by any church of mankind. Jesus himself said, “There shall be one church and one shephard,” That church is within the hearts and minds of his people who he knows and who knows him. The shephard is not Jesus, Mohammad or any worldly prophet, as men are taught. The shephard is the Father who I and others I’ve met, through my Father, knows this who are not concerned with the ways of the world around them. Jesus was just the first radical who rejected the world around him and was martyered for it. Now, through his death many have made him God. How sad. It is idolism no matter how you try to sugar coat it. The Father is a God of the living and not the dead. Those who are idol worshippers in his eyes, are dead to him and he knows them not.
The truth I share in these comments will be hated, but yet ask yourself, why this one scripture within the covenant God made with his people; Hebrews, 8; 11. And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord; for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
I am the least in my Father’s kingdom, and I teach no one, but share these comments of truth to any who read and understand and think outside the box man has put God into, without being offended. I’ve been called an antichrist and many nasty things by, so called Christians, who say they have God within them. Yet, they hate and still have anger towards all not in line with their thinking or beleifs. My truth I’ve found through my Father, frees me up beyond the teachings of men who follow men and I anger no more, but love all without question.
God bless.
Dear Frank.
Shalom, and love in the name of Jesus.
To say Jesus is not God, will make all other religious people happy. If Jesus is not the exclusive way to Heaven, than we do not pay to much attention to his teachings. Jesus was just one of many great prophets, and one of many great men that has come and gone.
You will be loved by most men, with your universal message. But there is no truth in what you just wrote.
God the Son came down from Heaven to save man. There is no other name under Heaven, or on the Earth, that man can be saved. His name if Jesus, a Jew from Nazareth in Israel.
If you reject the divinity of Jesus, He will not save you. You are lost in your sins, will face judgment and end up in hell. Please repent, or face everlasting tragedy.
Dear ivarfjeld;
Thanks for your concern for my soul and my salvation. Yet in the Bible, it states that a prophet of God can only save himself, no matter how many he tries to share his truth with. Yet the faith I have in my Father who has taught me of all his words he spoke through Jesus and many other prophets throughout the history of mankind which is mixed with words of worldly men to confuse and divert a truth so unworldly and not in line with any teachings of men that the majority of the world will reject depending on which faith one chooses to follow. I chose none to follow, but my Father. The world knows not of him and never will for even in the bible, is a statement that states, that the truths of God are not profitable within the world of men. This profitablility to man saying, is based on worldly profits of wealth, status and belonging to the society of mankind that is of the world that Jesus overcome. You say, that I’m lost and shall burn in hell for not believing that Jesus was divine. The truth is Jesus is my brother and not my God. I honor him by following and learning from the Father as he did. I also use to believe that Jesus was God but until my Father led me out of the churches of man taught me truths not accepted by the world today, then have I shed myself of the worldly cares which leaves one in a freedom few ever find. A freedom of mind and spiritual bliss within a world of spiritual discernment that is based on worldly teachings by worldly scholars who’ve put themselves in the place of God by judging those who think not like they or believe as they do. Whether Atheists or Christians, does not matter. The only one who’s judgement truly matters to me, is my Father’s judgement of me. He’s taught me who the antichrist is and why and yet I also understand that not many will debark from their teachings, which have come down from generation to generation from father to son and so on and so on until we have what is in the world today. Many Religions and many shephards who defend their beliefs with their words and lives, without ever thinking outside the box God has truly been in for thousands and thousands of years, by the true creator and rulers of this world. Satan and his minions have been upon this world since the creation of Adam and Eve.
When mankind stops warring and puts away all harsh words that separate, divide, ridicule and judge all men, then will mankind learn of the Father has I have. I respect your truth that makes you who you are today. The spirit of truth within you is limited to what you wish to accept as all God has to offer and say, while I and others I’ve met are still learning of a God who teaches beyond the teachings of men. Our truths have no ending as our spirits are being prepared for beyond the Day of the Lord which will come upon all men eventually. This world we live in is just a shell of Gods power. What’s real in this world is unreal to the Father who sees not worldly things. The invisible is seldom considered important while in truth, the invisible is much more important than the visible that many grasp hold of and will never let go.
I thank you for you honesty and concern, but, I can only save myself as you can only save yourself. I fear not death one iota, for I know to where I shall return, for I’ve been in his light and felt the love that is from where I came from. Can you say the same? I condemn you not but sorrow over many and wish you all the happiness this world has to offer. I’m happy, free and content beyond my wildest dreams and yet, I live frugally, simply and my only protection is my Father who has never let me down or lied to me at any time in my life. Yet, it took me years to find and learn of him. And all I had to do, is ask him which is simple enough, but few do it, for they need an advocate as taught by worldly men. Not God.
God bless
Dear Frank.
Shalom.
You wrote:
I thank you for you honesty and concern, but, I can only save myself as you can only save yourself.
My reply.
Non of us can save our selves. We need to be saved. And the only one that can save us, in Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah sent by God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.
Frank,
The bible is clear.
Jesus said: John 10:30 I and the father are one.
John 8:24 says: I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”
Frank, Wow! You sound like a man in the process of creating his own personal religion, as in a Jim Jones type or David Koresh..and that is somewhat scary. No offense intended. It is only that I wonder why. Do you want to be so free and to abolish the Ten Commandments and live in complete freedom with no restraints, no right or wrongs, no can do and no can’t dos…I await your response. Thanks and Blessings to you~
Have you ever truly wondered why Moses, after 40 years of wandering with his people was only allowed to see the promised land from a far yet not step upon it? It was Gods similtude to all those who follow men and not God. Moses was a true prophet of God, yet, he only could save himself and not those of his people. His peoples faith was in Moses not God. That is why they built a golden calf when Moses was gone for 40 days and nights. Just as man has built images to a crucified Jesus who’s death saved no one for his death was a similtude of what happens to those who teach outside the teachings of worldly men who rule over this earth no matter what religon one chooses to follow.
When I left the churches of man, my Father verified all his teachings within my mind, through written words of books not acknowledged by today’s religionists and scholars.
My father sent me into a non-denominational church for only ten minutes and there I learned a truth that brought me to my knees. A truth that the majority will never accept. As I watched the congregation sing and praise Jesus, my Father touched me with his mind, and showed me their hollow shells. I left immediately and while in the parking lot dropped to my knees in tears and promised my Father that I would never set foot in another church of man and for him to forgive me for doubting the teaching I had learned from him before ever recieiving any other books such as the Nag Hammadi, the Pistis Sophia and many many more that has truth in them besides the Bible.
Yet in Isaiah, 43; 10-11. Gods shares his truth with Isaiah which the world will never wish to see, for they are blind and deaf to true words that truly frees ones spirit up from the teachings of men and who truly saves his own who bow to no one but him, the Father.
10. Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11. I, even, I am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.
The Father resurrected Jesus. Jesus did not resurrect himself. Yet you wish to be blind to that truth and believe the teachings of men who teach that Jesus had the power to resurrect himself. By your condemning words and scripture you choose to quote and judge me by, shows me which church you all belong to and follow. You follow the churchs of man and the ruler of this world, Satan. Yet, I hold no ill will to any who quote scripture to me they understand only through the teachings of men who teach fear of God. The only fear I have is that I’m not worthy of the truths he’s given me and the testimonies of his power that I could share with the world, but no one would listen let alone believe. Meanwhile my faith in my Father gets stronger and stronger as my eyes are opened to the great divide, between Gods teachings and worldly men’s teachings. Gods true church lies within the hearts and minds of his people, and the world knows them not.
By the way, I never rejected Jesus’s words. His words have led me to the Father and through the Father, I’ve learned of Jesus beyond the teachings of men. Jesus was a true Son of God and my brother, as I am also a Son of God and there are many many others that the world knows not of who also are Sons and Daughters of the Father, but remember this; God sees not male or female. Only spirits. His church is spiritual not temporal. Worldly things are of no concern to God and this also is true. If it costs money, it’s not of God. You think the world would have know after he destroyed the tower of babel that was built to honor and praise him. But no, men keep on building temple after temple after temple. The sins of the father to son continues generations upon generations, and worldly men only dig a deeper hole which they are not willing to climb out of to see truth beyond the teachings of men.
God bless you all and I won’t bother you all again.
Frank,
Your comment: I left immediately and while in the parking lot dropped to my knees in tears and promised my Father that I would never set foot in another church of man and for him to forgive me
My Comment; God’s word is the complete truth. Hebrew 10:25 says: Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
Your Comment: The Father resurrected Jesus. Jesus did not resurrect himself. Yet you wish to be blind to that truth and believe the teachings of men who teach that Jesus had the power to resurrect himself.
My Comment: Where did I state to you anywhere that Jesus resurrected himself? Please read Acts 2:24 The bible quote I gave you was John 10:30 The father and I are one.
Your comment:By your condemning words and scripture you choose to quote and judge me by, shows me which church you all belong to and follow. You follow the churchs of man and the ruler of this world, Satan.
My Comment: Again, where is it that I condemned you, or judge you? God is the only one who can judge. I follow the church of Jesus Christ, and I rebuke Satan and his demons. John 3:16 says “For God so loved ithe world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life *end* I believe in Christ completely.
Your Comment: Yet, I hold no ill will to any who quote scripture to me they understand only through the teachings of men who teach fear of God.
My Comment: I quoted scripture to you, and yet you chose to tell me that I follow Satan. The bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.*end*
God bless you to Frank, and no one said you were a bother. Ivar (who is the founder and owner of this site)welcomes you, and I do so also, in hopes that we can discuss the bible and God’s everlasting word.
One more thing Frank, and this is important.
God’s word is the complete truth.
John 8:24 says: I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”
You can take offense to it, or you can pray and ask Jesus Christ to show you the way.
OBAMA SUPPORTS PUBLIC DEPRAVITY
Google “Zombietime” and click on “Up Your Alley Fair.” This mayor-and-police-protected sexual debauchery (naked men having sex with each other) regularly occurs in view of children in the San Francisco district represented by Sneaker of the House Nancy (“You’ll find out what’s in the bill after we pass it – TEE HEE HEE”) Pelosi – that is, in “Madam Nancy Pelosi’s Brothel District!” One wonders how soon San Fransicko’s “underground” saint – San Andreas – will get a big jolt out of what goes on over his head. View the above Zombietime “Pompeii on the Bay” before the predicted Californicatia earthquake happens a la Rev. 16:19 (“the cities of the nations fell”) and before other disasters like tsunamis occur (in Matt. 18:6 Jesus advocated drowning for any child abuser!). For related eye-openers Google “Michelle Obama’s Allah-day,” “Obama Fulfilling the Bible,” and “Imam Bloomberg’s Sharia Mosque.” BTW, here’s a new pro-life slogan: “Unborn babies should have the right to keep and bear arms – and legs and ears and eyes etc.!”
I wish to apologize to any who have been offended by my interpretation of scripture which is taught to me by my Father. It has freed me up from the teachings of men in a way that has left me at peace with all things around me. My truth, though opposite in reference to man’s worldly interpretation of scripture has a way of cutting like a double-edged sword. Yet, this scripture from the Nag Hammadi may say it much much better than I;
Philosophers voice three different opinions about the order of the universe, and they disagree with each other. Some of them say that the universe has governed itself, others say that divine forethought has governed it, and still others that fate has been in charge. All these opinions are wrong. Of the three opinions I have mentioned, none of them is true. And life that comes from itself is empty, made by itself. Forethought is foolish. Fate is senseless.
Whoever can avoid these three options I have mentioned, and come with another option to confess the God of truth and agree about everything concerning him, is immortal while living among mortal people.
Upon being in his light and hearing his voice call my name, surrounded by a love that is indescribable with words, I have learned that God is in all of us, but to what degree, only the Father knows his own. The God of truth/love is the Father, as Jesus learned and so have I. The one thing that I always ask my Father for is truth, for I am a simple man. Yet the truth I have is not in line with todays world as was Jesus’s truth in line with the time he walked the earth. I pray to my Father that when I face him that I wish not to be a deceiver of men and I sense within my soul that truth, I’ve been blessed with, though it’s outside the teachings of men, through the missinterpretation of the words of God by worldly men, intentionally to build stone temples to a God who wishes not any temples whatsoever to be built to him. For the Father inhabits only temples of flesh who he chooses to inhabit. Not who men say are righteous and worthy in their eyes.
In Ezekiel, 14; 7-11.
7 For every one of the house of Israel, of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the Lord will answer him by myself; (Note, Jesus was a prophet, and men came to him to learn, of God, thus these scriptures have been fullfilled and are continuing to be fullfilled until men learn to follow God, the Father for themselves for they need no advocate.)
8. And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the Lord. (Note; If one reads the Nag Hammadi one learns that the disciples of Jesus missrepresented Jesus so much, for they loved him and thought of him as a God, that man has made him God, over the Father, which is idolism in the eyes of God. Remember, when Jesus was washing his disciples feet and when he got to Peter, Peter said that he wouldn’t let Jesus wash his feet. Why was that? Cause already Peter had made Jesus his Lord and Master, within his mind, and what was the response of Jesus? He told them all that any man who will not let him wash their feet is not worthy of him. Thusly Peter changed his mind and said he could wash all of him if he wanted to. Jesus was trying to tell them that I’m just a man as you are. He was no one higher or lesser than they. They were equals in his Father’s eye. That is why I stated that Jesus is my Brother. Yet men have been teaching that man is not worthy of speaking directely to the Father and thusly they must speak through Jesus. How sad and wrong that is. Jesus, through men has become a sign and a proverb. That was the lesson I recieved from my Father when at the non-denominational church where I learned those who worship Jesus are hollow shells, for they know not who they pray to)
9. And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from midst of my people Israel. (Note; Israel, is the name of his people at this time that pertains to all 12 tribes that are scattered throughout the world today. It has very little to do with the land of Israel. This does effect all descendants of and within the 12 tribes of Israel, who’s name shall be changed in time, to New Jerusalem, as stated in Rev. 3; 12.)
10. And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity; the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him seeketh him unto him. (Note; The crucifixion of Jesus was an example of what would become of those who followed him and thusly this scripture also verifies that truth through the demise of his disciples except for one who died on Patmos.)
11. That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, (who’s me? The Father) neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; (What transgressions? The worshipping of men/idols) but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord God.
Now to verify his Father’s words from the Nag Hammadi through the words of a resurrected Jesus;
Say to the children of my people, “If your sins reach from earth to heaven, if they become red as scarlet and blacker than sackcloth, and if you return to me with all your soul and say to me, “My Father,”
I will listen to you as a holy people.”
Now I’ve shared with you who may read this and not be offended from where I come and who’s been my teacher. I love the scriptures, but not through the teachings of men, but through my Father who has freed me up from the world in a way, that can’t be described in words. There is another scripture in the Bible that states, “The more one learns of truth, the more sorrow one has.” I sorrow for all who have been decieved, tricked and misled by the number one trickster of all. Satan.
I have no anger or remorse towards any man, religion or opinions of men that differ from mine. I only state what I’ve learned and if one mind and heart is opened to anything outside the teachings of men, whether one believes me or not is not important. But whether one has the faith to think outside a box man has put God into for such a long long time, then I have done my Father’s will and shed a little brighter light on a truth that truly frees ones spirit to soar without restrictions by the vain written laws and doctrines of men that separate, divide and classify people. None of them bring anyone together as one in mind and heart, for all are as different as night and day. Jesus himself stated that there shall be one flock and one shephard. That flock are those who praise the Father freely, and the shephard is the Father, found only through the words of Jesus who is my brother.
God bless all.
Dear Frank.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Jesus himself stated that there shall be one flock and one shephard. That flock are those who praise the Father freely, and the shephard is the Father, found only through the words of Jesus who is my brother.
My reply:
John 10:14
“I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me.
Frank. You are wrong. Jesus is the good shepherd, and you do not know Him at all.
Only problem is that Obama’s quotes are taken completely out of context.
I agree and have always felt this regarding Obama, but this and his deliberate intentions are grossly exagerrated here. God is definately using him to pave the way for the end times, but I think Obama is clueless and is only concerned about getting everyone to like eachother and to like him. He’ll say whatever people want to hear, to that end.
Dear Sandra
Shalom.
You wrote:
but I think Obama is clueless
My reply:
Many felt Hitler was clueless too. Please read Main Kampf, and you will see the truth about “clueless men”.
Hitler was convinced he served ‘god”, and that He would save the World from all evil. The ultimate evil were the Jews. To be able to reign for 1.000 years, Hitler was told by his “god” to get rid of them.
Obama is a very intelligent man. He is spiritual, and listen to the same demon. This demon has been around since the book of Esther. He tells those who obey him: “Get rid of the Jews”, and everything will work out fine. There will finally be “peace” on Earth.
Behind all this is Satan, who would like you worship him as “god”, and become his child.
1.To anyone who said Obama is moslem,then you are such an idiot. {if christian said good thing about buddhism then he’s a buddhist? don’t be ridiculous}
2.To anyone who never live in Indonesia & never had “Moslem” neighbours & never knew that each year in Indonesia whenever Christmas day,even Istiqlal the biggest mosque in Indonesia parking lot are 4 christians! also the otherwise {i can’t imagine the same tolerancy act in US or Europe}
3.Even though in Indonesia,moslem are majority,but since our freedom from dutch “EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIANS HOLIDAY ARE ALSO NATIONAL HOLIDAY” “THAT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TO ANY MOSLEM THEIR HOLIDAY BEING NATIONAL HOLIDAY IN US/EUROPE/AUSTRALIA AND ANY WESTERN OR CHRISTIAN COUNTRY” NOT BEFORE & NOT UNTIL TODAY!
4.My Family also including moslem+christian,both are religious people who go to mosque also church but never in mind,we though ourself are better then other!
5.Not single ayat or verses of Qur’an ever said bad thing about what moslem said is Prophet Isa AS {JESUS for us} even Qur’an the only HOLY BOOK who has 1 chapter of MARYAM {MARIA} unlike Old/New testament.
6.Before you speak in the Jesus name or you think you love Jesus then clear your mind from hatred.
7.Even though Jesus are saving you,but if you still do lot of sins,despise the truth,full of lies & hates,then prepare for being judge in last day.
8.LAST BUT NOT LEAST REMEMBER ALWAYS SAY THE TRUTH NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE CHRISTIANS THEN EVERYTHING YOU DO ALWAYS RIGHT! REMEMBER OUR BROTHER NAZI SOLDIERS WHO KILL JEWISH THEY ARE CHRISTIANS BUT STILL NOT RIGHT! REMEMBER KLUX KLUX CLAN! REMEMBER OKLAHOMA BOMBER TIM MCVEIGH WHO BOMBS OKLAHOMA BUILDING HE’S A CHRISTIAN BUT ALSO BOMBING & THAT NOT RIGHT! BY THE WAY IT HAPPEN BEFORE WTC
9.MOST OF MEDIA OWNERSHIP ARE JEWISH,THEY HATE MOSLEM AS MOSLEM ALSO HATE THEM,MOST MEDIA IN US & EUROPE ALWAYS MENTION “TERRORIST=ISLAM=MOSLEM” BUT WE TEND TO FORGET “WHATEVER IN TALMUD SAID ABOUT NON JEWISH INCLUDING CHRISTIANS” IT WAS JEWISH PEOPLE WHO HATE JESUS & NEVER RESPECT HIM IN ANY LEVEL BUT NAH WE BLIND BECAUSE SOME VERSES ABOUT WE “MUST RESPECT & HELP JEWISH AT ANY WAY” FORGET THE TRUTH WHO’S THE ANTI CHRIST? JEWISH WHO HATE JESUS AND THINK HIM AS A LIAR & SO ON? OR MOSLEM WHO NEVER HATE JESUS BUT ONLY BELIEVING HIM AS THE TRUE PROPHET,1 OF THE BEST PROPHET EVER,APOSTLE? BUT NEVER ACCEPT HIM AS GOD?
Daniel,
The bible is God’s word, and the truth is straight to the point. We are living in dangerous times, and it is important that the spirtually blind, open their eyes and heart to the truth- and that is in the Word of God.
John 10:30 I and the Father are one.
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”
Gloria; When Jesus said, I and the Father are one. The testimony I have of it true meaning is this; Before I ever joined any church years ago of man and was investigating the church I was about to be baptised in I had read the Bible for the first time in my entire life. Since then, I’ve read it 3 times in it’s entirety and many more books beside. My repentance before ever joining the church happened while I was with my wife living in a mobile trailer in the middle of a national park in New Mexico. I read this scripture;
“And whoso shall ask it in my name in faith, they shall cast out devils; they shall heal the sick; they shall cause the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak, and the lame to walk.”
After reading that scripture, I stated to my wife who was just waking up at that time, that “I would do anything to be able to heal all people for God, and I would do it for nothing and no money whatsoever.” My wife said, kind of sleeply “Yes, that would be great,” and then fell back to sleep. I then stood up and walked back to the back room of the trailer re-reading the above scripture. What was in my mind was humbling and brought me to my knees and for the next hour and a half while laying on the floor of that trailer, in a fetal position I cried for what was in my head was this; If you follow me, I will grant you your wish to heal.
Gloria I cried and kept saying that I’m not worthy of such a gift and know nothing of how to even begin let alone find that kind of faith. Yet, after an hour and a half, I stood up and when I returned back to our living room where my wife was laying on a day bed sleeping, she awoke and the first thing that she said was, “You’ve Changed.”
Then this happened also before ever being baptised in water or joining any church of man. My Father’s spirit came upon me for an entire week enshrouding every thought, and movement I made for the next week. My voice never raise an octave. I was at peace and love with all around me, and cared not once about worldly cares. For an entire week, my whole personna and life had changed to meekness, calmness and only one thing in my life mattered. That was to love my wife in ways, that can’t be taught, and I’m not talking sex. All I could think of was my wife and I knew that God had overcome me with his spirit. His spirit revealed to me who I was in his eyes, and my wife was just as surprised of my actions for that entire week. She could say anthing and nothing bothered me. So could my friends, but yet, I could do nothing, and didn’t want to do nothing except love all things around me and fear nothing or nobody.
Well after a week, his spirit left me to return to who I was before that week started. It has taken me much faith to learn when he is within me and when he’s not. In my meekness I found strength in a love that I felt when he said my name while surrounded in his light. I joined the church and testimonied all the time to congregations, but no one truly believed me or even commented. Yet, I would get slaps on the back and kind words but no one interested in my testimonies pertaining to my repentance and the calling of my name while in a light filled with my Father’s love.
It took my a long time to learn that not many have such a testamony to give.
Gloria, Jesus was not only enshrouded with the spirit of the Father, as I was, but the Father stayed with him until just before his crucifixion in which he asked his Father why he had to take the cup he was about to endure, but he did it for the love of his Father.
Gloria, you may laugh at me, and call me a sinner, but I say this will happen upon the earth for the last time, but this time, the Father’s spirit shall touch and inhabit all minds and hearts, and yet, many will reject this humbling meek feeling, thinking that the antiChrist is coming upon them, but in truth it’s not. Yet many will fight and reject this enshrouding of the entire world for meekness is seen as weakness, in a world where strength is judged by ones possesions and how one defends his beliefs in men’s teachings. Those who follow any Prophet of man, even Jesus, they will fail as Peter failed at the end, when he denied Jesus three times in one evening.
Those who accept the Father’s spirit when it comes upon them will be those such as I who know who it is and have heard his voice call their name. It’s the 144,000 that the world knows not, and they will then at that time, as Jesus said to his mother, “My time hasn’t come yet,” but it will, and they shall go out through the land healing all who the Father sends their way, and sharing their truths with those left behind after evil is removed.
Evil is separated by those who love this world and those who just live in it and care not for it’s teachings, for they have the teachings of a God of love, who knows no hate, anger or of any emotion that is of this world of flesh. They will be as Jesus and I was for a week, but the Father was with Jesus for much longer than a week as I was. That is why he gave praise to the Father in all the miracles he worked for the Father. So upon him say’ I and the Father are one, it is a true statement, for he was. It shall happen again, and yet the world will reject this truth again, but this time, no martyers shall fall. For those who reject, reject not only the Father, but also Jesus, for those who are one with the Father are also one with Jesus, yet they praise the Father as Jesus did and not Jesus as man does. God has never changed one iota. Man has and always does.
I don’t expect one person to believe me who may read this, but my Father has given me many witnesses who speak not at all, yet I am not alone in my learning, for my Father has givem me more than one or two witnesses to the truths he’s taught me. The books I read I did not buy for myself. They were sent to me by those I’ve met, yes, on the internet. They even paid for them for me, so I could read them and yet, they belong to no church of man and have become friends in truth that can’t be spoken in today’s world just as it was in the time of Jesus when he walked the earth. Yet, as Jesus, I also can say, that my time or should I say, Gods people’s time hasn’t come yet, but we are being taught and not by men.
God bless you all. And may a spark of truth touch your spirit that fights change but seeks meekness, humility, and humbleness, for the meek are being prepared to inherit the earth, just as Jesus stated. But few truly believe this for it’s the strong who makes the biggest noise when it comes to change.
Natural man is an enemy to God. That is a fact. Note: Moses left Egypt and didn’t return for 40 years to face Pharoah. God works in his time, not men’s. I’ve only been with him for a little over 6 years, and in that time have learned much and done much that has led me to where I am today. I left the churchs of man to follow my Father for his churchs lies within my heart and my mind, which the world can not see or grasp for it’s invisible. Yet, I know that all I just stated to you is true knowing that records are kept of all thoughts, and words spoken by men, even me. I deny Jesus not, for through him he has saved me, by leading me to the Father and my Father has taught me all I’m learning, which is not in line with the worlds teachings. What happened to the Jews who followed the words of Moses and Jesus himself said, that the words of Moses that you use to condemn others shall also condemn you. I say the same thing, but the words of Jesus that you use to condemn others shall also condemn you, and I condemn you not and that is why when Jesus spoke the Father spoke through him as he does through all his people. Yet our time hasn’t come yet, but when his spirit comes upon you, will you humble yourself or be as peter and deny its humbling effect that will touch your mind with teachings not taught by men in their worldly churches?
God bless you and may you find the faith I have in a loving God who brings together and not a God who separates and divides, families, friends and countries that follow men who teach different beliefs and laws all in the name of religions that eventually war against each other. For all shall lose in the end.
Dear Frank.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Those who follow any Prophet of man, even Jesus, they will fail as Peter failed at the end, when he denied Jesus three times in one evening.
My reply:
This is not Christianity, and has nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus. You might be a Jehova Witness, or a Mormon. By the way. Peter did not fail at the end, as you claim. Please read the book of Acts.
Why do you think Jesus can save, and only Him?
Please answer me.
Frank,
Your comment: Well after a week, his spirit left me to return to who I was before that week started.
My Comment: 1 Corinthians 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;*end*
This bible verse tells us the Holy Spirit resides in us, and never deeparts. Here’s another verse: John 14:6 says: And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever- the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
Your Comment: Yet, I would get slaps on the back and kind words but no one interested in my testimonies pertaining to my repentance and the calling of my name while in a light filled with my Father’s love.
My Comment: Frank, I’m going to be blunt with you. But if you do not believe in the entire Word of God, John 10:30 and John 8:24, you are not truly saved. I apologize if this upsets you in anyway, but I want you to see the truth. John 8:24 explicitly says: I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.” Read that again Frank, and understand what it means. Christ and God are one, and if you do not believe that Christ is HE, then you would die in your sins.
I feel that you have taken your own view of what the bible is, and believe in what you think it should mean.
This is completely wrong. 2 Corinthians 11:14 says: And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
The bible also says: 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
I feel in some way from what you are writing, that satan may have fooled you into believing Jesus is not God. That will be the downfall of many, because God’s Word (The Holy Bible) is always TRUE.
I have been in the presence of Christ, and I have seen what many have not. And this happened, because I put my complete trust in my Savior Jesus Christ.
I hope that my words and more importantly The Bible-God’s Word touches you and you see the truth before it’s too late.
God Bless.
Gloria; I know that the words of Jesus are from the Father, and through them one can find the Father. Remember when Jesus said, “That one must eat my flesh and drink my blood?
His flesh represents his words. His blood represents his spirit which was the spirit of his Father who was within him as he will be in all his people.
Mankind is still responsible for their own sins. Jesus’s crucifixion is a proof of how the world slays those who are not in line with it, such as I am not in line with it’s teachings pertaining to our Father. By the way, it was the Mormon Church that I had joined, but am no longer in it. Jesus also left the church of man, but yet the world continues calling him a jew.
He was the first of his Father’s church which lies within the heart and mind of his people and Gods people follow no men. That is why I call Jesus my brother and he’s not my God, but an example of how one finds faith and trust in the Father as he did. All Jesus spoke and said and done, was through the Father and the world sees him not for they praise the man of flesh and not the true spirit within him that was his Father’s spirit that enshrouded him through his calling until it left him in the Garden of Getsemane before his arrest, trial and crucifixion which was perpetrated by a world that destroys all that’s not in line with it. Jesus was a radical in his times, and thusly so am I in mine. My faith is in my Father and no words spoken by men, can take my faith from me and as Jesus himself said, to the Pharisees and Scribes; “Tear down this temple and in three days it shall be raised again,” We all know he was talking about his body, yet we know the Pharisees and Scribes understood this not.
Neither are those of the world to understand my simple truth for it is simple and unobtrusive and is free just for the asking. God is simple. Man makes him hard.
The power of God is awesome and yet this scripture from the Bible says it all;
1 Corinthians, 1; 25. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
To you, I’m a fool. What you call weakness, those who are meek and humble are strong in faith that few truly find today.
1 Corinthians, 2; 18. Let no man decieve himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him bcome a fool, that he may be wise.
I’m a fool in the eyes of the world, but what my Father thinks of me is truly much more important than what you or anyone else thinks of me. For you may judge me now, but my Father shall judge me for all eternity. Yet, I judge no one but myself and still I find myself so unworthy of such truth that none but only those who are truly his can understand let alone believe.
God bless you.
Dear Frank.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Mankind is still responsible for their own sins. Jesus’s crucifixion is a proof of how the world slays those who are not in line with it, such as I am not in line with it’s teachings pertaining to our Father. By the way, it was the Mormon Church that I had joined, but am no longer in it. Jesus also left the church of man, but yet the world continues calling him a jew.
My reply:
There is a lot of interesting stuff in your comment. Frankly. That you have left the Mormons are good news. Now, You need to start reading the Bible.
Oh Frank,
I completely agree with Ivar. You need to start reading the bible, and learn the Word of God.
Your comment: That is why I call Jesus my brother and he’s not my God, but an example of how one finds faith and trust in the Father as he did. All
My Comment: Jesus is not your brother. He is our King and Savior. John 10:30 I and the Father are One. I will keep repeating that one to you, in hopes it sinks in to your heart.
I don’t even think you ever gave me an answer of what your interpretation of John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins *end*
God’s Word in 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. *end* Reread it Now. God was manifested in the flesh. Do you know what that means?
Look at this one. Titus 2:13 – looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ *end* GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
Dear Frank.
Shalom.
Let me add to Gloria’s comment. Jesus is my Master, My God and my best friend. I love Him above all. Even my own life in the flesh. There is no one like Jesus. Come to Him, and He will give you life. Amen.
Also Frank you say I judge you but what I do is show you what the Word of God says.
Jesus Christ is our judge, but I show you what he says, in hopes that you believe, and avoid an eternity of suffering.
God Bless.
Until mankind learns that Gods words are mixed within men’s words, even in the Bible, and only through the spirit of the Father can one see his truth within the entermingling of words. Yet, many are spiritually discerned and only see what is taught them, put their by worldly men who love this world and all it has to offer over the Father.
You’ve all accepted men’s words tied to a dark world that blesses one with a false sense of faith based on material gains and worldly accomplishments promised to those who accept all they hear. Satan himself can do no good, and my Father has put me within the grasp of Satan and I’ve felt the heavyness upon my shoulders while in Satan’s presence. That time in my life was my example of how it feels to be near Satan in any aspect of our lives. You say, I’m being decieved and yet, they the Pharisees and Scribes said Jesus was of Satan himself. I guess, I’m following Jesus’s example for you are not the first to catagorize me in the same way. Yet, my faith strengthens and grows stronger at every arrow thrown my way. I feel no anger and can withstand all the scripture you and others can direct at me. Yet, I speak one word against Jesus that is not in line with your worldly teachings, and the name calling and condemnations begins.
You should read the Nag Hammadi and other books beside just the Bible. My Father directed me to the Quran for a brief going over and this one scripture has stuck with me since. I can’t remember it word for word, but it’s truth says a lot. “On the last day, when we face God, he will grant you to call your advocate to speak for you and none shall come.”
Yet the same words in the bible where Jesus states that those who prophesy in his name and cast out devils in his name and have done many wonderful works in his name, he will deny before his Father for they do iniquity in his eyes. I’ve already quoted them once before in prior comments, yet you all can’t see that it’ pointing to those who praise him and not those who don’t. Why? Because we praise the Father. Jesus makes a statement in the Nag Hammadi which even says it better. “Blessed are those who need no advocte.”
Jesus is and has become your advocate. Your faith is in him, not the Father. Yet through Jesus, who you say I know not at all, I’ve found the truth that frees me up from any anger pointed towards me pertainig to my faith. You judge me yet, you follow not your own Bible; 1 Corinthians, 5; 13. “But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.”
As I said, I judge you not, but just share what I have and for it, you and others judge me. I’ve put that person away from within me and that is why I can’t anger.
I rest my case. My soul is and has always been in my Father’s hands. As I’ve said, you may throw all the scripture you want at me, for my faith is solid as a rock in my Father who has never lied to me throughout my entire life. He don’t abandon anyone who seeks him for truth that truly frees one from the vain teachings and doctrines of men.
God bless you. By the way we all die in our sins while in the flesh and of this world. Only upon death in the flesh will some find life everlasting. I am just one of many who God shall call the New Jerusalem, which the world understands not. Rev. 3; 12.
Frank
Your Comment: Until mankind learns that Gods words are mixed within men’s words, even in the Bible, and only through the spirit of the Father can one see his truth within the entermingling of words.
My Comment: Read the BIBLE. Revelation 22 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Your Comment: My Father directed me to the Quran for a brief going over and this one scripture has stuck with me since.
My Comment: The father you speak of isn’t God, if he directed you to the Quran. Because Jesus Christ only directs us to his Word whichis the Holy Bible.
1 Timothy 6:3-5 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.
Again, you say I judge you, but Only Christ can do that. You are spiritually blind, and now more than ever with statments like “quran’ I know you do not speak of the God that’s in the bible.
2 Timothy 3 says: But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6 For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. *end*
Read the last part: always learning and never able to come to the knowledge fo the truth. That is the stage you are in Frank. Pick up the bible and read the truth.
God Bless.
Dear Frank.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Until mankind learns that Gods words are mixed within men’s words, even in the Bible, and only through the spirit of the Father can one see his truth within the entermingling of words.
My reply:
If you had your exam in a few days, would you not prefer to read the school book? Jesus is the Word that become flesh. When you reject the Word of God, you reject Him.
Please read the Bible. I am not interesting in a debate about anybody’s private religion, and their personal opinions about what Jesus might have said or not.
With some interest I’ve been reading this thread and must say Frank is lost. I’m not judging him, but his own words reveal the fact. First, all Scripture is given by inspiration of G-d, and second, Scripture is not from men but from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. In fact, faith comes from hearing, that is, hearing the Word of God. Unless and until Frank or anybody else confesses Jesus as Lord and calls him “my God” they are lost and filled with the spirit of antiChrist which denies that God has come in the flesh to pay for our sins. Sorry, Frank, but you failed the test. AMEN.
Gloria; All books have truth in them, even the Quran, though much of it is of evil men. My God knows that my faith in him is stronger than your faith in the God you chose to follow and praise. Spiritual growth is stunted when men fear a God of vengeance and who desires worldly praise through vain rituals and ordinaces that bind ones true spirit within. My faith and belief in my God frees my spirit to learn of him while at the same time, my desire for the teachings of this world lessens.
The bible has two churchs within it as does all scripture in all religious books. Satan’s churches which are many and cover the earth, and Gods church which is invisible and not recognized by the world, except for those who are his.
The doubles edged sword that is described as Gods words, reflect back also on all religions of mankind. I have no hate towards any man or religion and judge no one. Yet my blindness as you say I have is really your blindness that infected the Pharisees and Scribes in their times. God has never changed. As he was then he is today.
Yet, I shared testimony to prove my points, even though I know non-believers see the devil in all I share. Yet, all who are as you all you have for your testimony is scripture with no explaination except scripture. I love scripture and see the truth within it all. I can reflect on my life and see where scripture crosses path within my life which gives me testimony that I can relate to within my own life. Yet, you would say that this is love of self, which would be true by your understanding, but what I see, is my Father’s love upon me, to see the true me, that he sees, and not the person that the world would see.
I’m a very simple man and need nothing from anyone, yet I live in theis world as frugally as I can. I need to write no book or build no church as many do, who feel they have been called by God.
Yet, if all churches of man sold all their worldly belongings and returned all the money given by those decieved by the false prophets of this world, there would be no poor living around a palace of Gold or temples of stone inudated with statues of Jesus on the cross and so on and so on that incorporates all worldly religons that are abominations to a Loving God who needs no praise or money or even laws, except for those he has ingrained in the hearts and minds of his people who he shall call, New Jerusalem on the last day.
Gloria, your concern for my soul is touching. Yet, my concern for your soul is just as real though you feel or sense it not from me. I’m not a deciever of men. I speak what is within me and only God shall judge me, not you, nor Jesus. God the Father.
St. Matthews, 12; 32. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him. but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
The Holy Ghost/spirit of my Father has taught me these truths, that I will not ever back away from, for truth be said, not many have ever been enshrouded with the Holy Ghost as I have and those who have are of no church of man. What I share, whether you believe me or not, is my calling from my Father, for my Father guides my mind to scripture, words that free me up more and more every day. The more I share, the more I learn of him and understand the truths in the words of Jesus who never once within his life ever mentioned or spoke the word; antichrist. For he knew where his name would be within the world of men in the last days. I love Jesus but above him, I love my Father and my Father shall judge me. Whatever he feels that I’m worthy of or not, I can accept it with humbleness and humility, without regret or pleading and I need no advocate upon that day that we all shall face eventually.
God bless.
Frank,
Your Comment: Gloria; All books have truth in them, even the Quran, though much of it is of evil men.
My Comment: No Thanks. I’ll stick to my Savior Jesus Christ. John 14:6 says Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Your Comment: My God knows that my faith in him is stronger than your faith in the God you chose to follow and praise.
My Comment: Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith–and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God *end* Thank you Jesus!
Your Comment: Yet, all who are as you all you have for your testimony is scripture with no explaination except scripture.
My Comment: The scripture you speak of is God’s Word and that’s all I need. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God *end*
And Frank here it is AGAIN: John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”
Here’s another important one: Isaiah 43:10,11 “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
FYI: Frank, I feel like I’m going around in circles with you. Your replies are really long, and based on basically nothing.
I have told you the most important thing in this world: That you need to believe in Our Lord Jesus Christ as Our Savior (John 3:16) who died for our sins, and resurrected.
You choose to believe the quaran, other books, mormons studies, and your being deceived by the devil.
I will not come back to this subject, unless you actually take an interest in knowing the Word of God.
God bless you and your family, and I pray to Christ that you see the truth.
I am sure you are all trying to act the right way, do the right thing…according to your perspectives.
However, it’s a shame that today’s society (and it may always have been like that) chooses to see things as they want them to appear, read the bible and interpret it so as to fit their view points, they baiscally have tunnel vision.
Even during the inquisition period in the dark ages, the crusaders read the same bible and interpreted it to mean that they should be killing non-believers etc etc.
same thing today, an American president (leader of western civilization, and by default the so called “free world” (albeit fast bound by Lucifer) decides it’s his sacred duty to destroy some “axis of evil” and maim and kill millions of innocent men women and children, who don’t look right, talk right or worship right, in the name of “spreading democracy” and “God given freedom”, that man is Bush W., Obviously the millions of religious people who claim to be Christian across America think that it’s a good idea, to show “love” by bombing cities and villages in some third world nations, or selling weapon to rebels and dictators in Africa etc etc….we believe in God, so that i guess justifies the actions.
Jesus said, “Love one another, by this, they shall know you are my disciples.’
The duty of a true believer is to preach the good new of the Kingdom, and the best sermon is love, When He (Jesus is exalted, He will draw all people to Himself” – the bible says)
It is not your duty, if you are a Christian walking in the Spirit, and love, to vilify anyone, or judge anyone (“..judge nothing before time…”) seeing we know too little as human beings.
From the time he appeared in public (nationally) i have been appalled at the venomous hatred that some “Christians” have displayed against the current President, Barack Obama. It begs to reason why one earth anyone, who identifies with Jesus, would harbor that kind of hatred for a human being?
The tit bits and quotes collaged here on this website just go to show you how just like the bible, information can be taken and arranged to fit any argument, to justify a perspective, but it doesn’t make it true, or fact.
For example anyone, including any President could have gone to any Muslim Country and said the same thing, but because there was not a rhetoric and a hatred against the person, prior, then it wouldn’t matter.
For example, Pres. Jimmy Carter, is more pro-human rights for eg the Palestinians than any other president, so is he some anti Christ?
I think the problem here is fear, irrational fear.
That somehow, our culture is finished, this Kenyan person has taken over power (watch Fox you will see what I mean, or listen to John Hagee and this crew)
Besides, even if we were to flip everything and forget the above argument which is very valid, if we as Christians truly believe the word of God, and have faith that what is coming is better. Then why would we be worried that the events are unfolding….I mean if the Anti-Christ was on the way to be revealed (and he is but I just don’t think humans are in a position to call out these things, our detailed knowledge of the future is limited), why would we stand in the way and try to stop it. Let what will be, be.
Preach the word of God to a dying world so they come to Christ because we shall be accountable for every idle claim, and word. And frankly, there is nothing you, me or anyone can do about the end times, it has already been finished, this is a theater, and Jesus is coming.
In any case, i think Pres. Obama is one of God’s forefront soldiers, more Muslims, Hindus and other non-believers woul probably come to Jesus courtesy of his testimony (seen in his daily conversation, or the way he carries himself in humility) than a 1000 hate filled preachers on American pulpits.
May God judge between us all. Who is in the right ad who is in the wrong.
I know this won’t appear on the site, but its all good/
Borntwice,
Your Comment: May God judge between us all. Who is in the right ad who is in the wrong.
My Comment: The bible says 2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
What judgement is their in telling others that what they are doing is wrong and not according to the Word of God? Jesus Christ is the one who will have judgment on us.
But as a believer in Christ, if I see someone behaving not according to the Word of God, it is our job as a Christian to state to them (with respect!) that Christ loves you, and his Word tells us how we should behave.
It is not a hard thing to figure out, when you realize the amount of love God has for each and every one of us.
I have always thought of Obama as the AntiChrist…. Although he might be the son of an American woman, his father is a Muslim. The manner in which he said about one world religion makes me understand that the Second Coming of Christ is near…
Question. How do we know what you guys are saying is true. As a muslim I’m deeply offended
If you can’t see what he is trying to do then you need to study your Bible .
The Bible said One God, One Baptism..not two…John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he give hes only begotten whosoever believe in him shall not perished but have everlasting life.. Simple.. Choose Jesus..he is the only way…
Prophecy is being fulfilled time and time again. For “true believers” this is a time to follow JESUS and watch all the “greedy$, power hungry devil worshipers” continue to deny truth and pretend to want to co-exist while performing as many atrocities they can get away with. Possibly even you can believe all their lies and follow the god of this system of things. Even JESUS was offered oportunity by satan and didn’t accept the lie. Maybe you like directions that take you no where. God Bless You For Praying For Wisdom and Discernment in JESUS NAME.
Barack Obama, take your Oligarchy to HELL with you and your fake god allah for all eternity. Yes, the word is not capitalized because he does not exist. Barack in hell believing in world government when Jesus Christ will sit on the throne of all the earth. “and the Kingdoms of this world shall become the Kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ”. Jesus will not share HIS throne with anyone including Barack Obama as his own 12th Imam or Mahdi. This is one man I want to get a very powerful telescope to see him from the Master’s Heaven to see Barack with his face on fire in HELL.